Students Attending Classes for Which They Have Not Paid Their Fees

Dr. Wilson moved the item.

Scott Hochwald described students who have legitimate issues, and the policy should distinguish. The policy should punish true violators.

Kathy Cohen stated that the policy gives sufficient time for students to become registered and faculty must protect class space for students who need it.

Dale Clifford asked whether faculty would become gatekeepers.

Pali Sen said she doesn't think there is a way to track this situation in large lecture classes.

Judy Solano said students have in the past attended an entire course, and been graded, without paying, and then they petition to add the class late.

Margaret Nonnemacher asked whether students could enroll in classes without admission to UNF, since the issue is paying fees.

Chris Rasche said we need Kim Luther's input. All students, even those on senior waivers are admitted to UNF. We might want to have a person who doesn't belong in class not there, and we currently have no policy to expel them. We need a provision to help us allow only those who are enrolled to attend. We may need to rethink language as presented, but make it possible to limit class attendance.

David Schwam-Baird said class sizes might be limited by the fire marshal. We may want wording such as "discontinue class attendance at discretion of professor."

Lucy Trice asked whether, if we pass this item, could we request waivers from the policy when we need them.

Dale Clifford asked if we pass the policy as written, how do we enforce it? Faculty are the only ones who can. Do we want this role every day?

Marianne Barnes said some courses are paid by grants, which are taking time for processing. She agrees on the need for enforcement, but we need latitude.

Judy Solano agrees with Chris, there are faculty who have problems with nonregistered students in classes, and we need a policy. The associate deans in Records and Registration are discussing same item. This policy combines faculty and Records/Registration language, and does not expect daily enforcement. The policy gives something to use when needed, but we can allow and use judgment for special circumstances.

Scott Hochwald proposed the amendment, which was seconded: Add "unless given permission by instructor" and strike items (a), (b), and (c).

David Schwam-Baird said that now faculty have no choice given in the stated policy. If faculty used judgment, we'd violate the policy.

Chris Rasche said we could solve problem without an amendment. We can revise item (a) with the proposed clause.

Royal Van Horn moved to refer the item to committee. The motion was seconded.
Bill Wilson asked whether the committee could have guidance on reworking the item.

The motion was voted on and the President called for a division of the house. The motion passed to refer to committee.